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Will insurance companies force contractors to be RRP Certified?

  
  
  
  

As The Contractor Coaching Partnership marches on to providing training for 3000 contractors we are often asked if we know what insurance companies are going to do. Will they provide cost effective pricing to cover contractors for lead? Will they require specific certification and or training in order to qualify for coverage? Will EPA RRP Certification be required in order to qualify for general liability coverage?

I was concerned about this earlier this year and asked some insurance experts and they assured me it would likely not be a requirement. They said it would likely be a choice and the insurance industry will produce a policy that will be priced in the 2500.00 dollar range for RRP coverage. There is a policy on the market now in that price range.

I was skeptical that RRP coverage would not be required to qualify for general liabilty. Now it appears that we thought correctly. The following excerpt from an EPA representative may be be the harbinger of what contractors will face in a few months. 

On Friday I received an email from a training provider in Texas. This email is from an EPA official from region 6 in Dallas. It also includes an interpretation of concerns between OSHA and RRP when setting a ladder on plastic. I will post the entire email and source here and let the readers of this blog draw their own conclusions. My conclusion is that insurance companies are going to demand that contractors are EPA RRP Certified Firms, employ certified renovators and that all sub contractors are certified. This will be very similar to the requirement that all subs carry workmen's compensation. I also believe that there is a better than average chance that insurance companies will cancel non-EPA Certified contractors who work on pre 1978 properties. Maybe this is a way that insurance companies can charge for more coverage?

Here is the email from; Estella Sugawara-Adams, M.S. Region 6 EPA

Thank you to every R6 Trainer Provider who added extra classes to meet the April 22nd deadline. I know that you all can cite the Instructor's Manual in your sleep!  The Region 6, Dallas office, owes you a huge THANK YOU!  

I have a request for everyone that involves purchasing supplies, brochures, tips and complaints.  Please, if possible, include in your training packet the name(s) of the company(ies) where the weatherization tape, yellow caution tape, Renovate Right Brochures, rolls of 6ml plastic etc., can be purchased. Some folks have never heard of "Google" or finding information on the web!
The "Lead-Check" company is really overwhelmed trying to fill requests for test kits.  Please remind your students that the new regulatory provision on the test kits will change in September 2010 - so don't over purchase the current test kits.

I would like for you all to include my name, telephone number and email address, for sending complaints, tips, etc. It is really important that your students know their efforts to obey the law is not being overlooked.
If you receive tips and/or complaints, about companies advertising as Certified EPA Trainer Providers, please let me know.  To date, we have caught two companies that were advertising as EPA Certified Trainer Providers and told the students they are now certified.  Unfortunately, the students never received their Certificates, and the companies are shams.

(Insurance Companies Dictating The Rules)

Insurance companies are requesting a copy of the Renovator Certificates, Firm Certificates and when training was completed. If the Certificates are not sent (faxed) to the insurance company, then the employees are let go and/or the Firm is dropped from coverage.  This is something that was launched by the Insurance companies, and we do not have control over their efforts to bring their industry into compliance.  A temporary card or signed letter (complete with date of training) on company Letterhead, would help your students tremendously.

(OSHA Interpretation)

Finally, I have been notified of several areas where the new regulation is in direct conflict with OSHA. Actually, it is not in conflict. The most serious is the slippery surface, we require that plastic must cover the ground, and the contractor must use   a ladder on the plastic, while keeping the surface of the plastic sprayed to contain the lead dust.  This is what OSHA requires:
The OSHA regulations don't say that you can't put a ladder on plastic.  It says that if you put it on a slippery surface, then you should secure it or use slip resistant feet.  The ladder regulations are at 29 CFR 1926.1053(b)(5)(ii) -(b)(7)

I will be setting up meetings with the Trainer Providers in May/June, so that we can review some of the areas that need improving, the 4-hour Refresher course, and any other topics that you may want to discuss.

Again, thank you.
Stella


Estella Sugawara-Adams, M.S.
Regional Lead (Pb) Coordinator
U.S. EPA, Region 6
6PD-Toxics
214-665-2704 (Direct)
214-665-6655 (Fax)

Here is one last question before I sign off.

If insurance companies follow through on requiring that all contractors become EPA RRP certified what will this mean for our industry, the average contractor and you?

mark the coach

The Contractor Coaching Partnership

 

Comments

I placed an order about two weeks ago and just received my order today. I’ve been ordering from them for two months now and this time around was a lot smoother than the first. It seems like this “LeadChecks” company is starting to get their feet underneath them after some growing pains. 
 
Look at it this way, if the EPA found that every drill besides a Bosch 32614-2G was a health threat, I guarantee you that Bosch would be back-ordered for months. You’ve got to keep everything in perspective. That all said, I’ll be watching them closely in the coming months to see how they evolve as a company. 
Posted @ Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:12 AM by Hurley Remodeling
Rian from LeadCheck® 
 
After weathering the initial spike of order requests brought on by the launch of the EPA RRP rule on April 22nd, LeadCheck® has begun to meet the market’s overwhelming demand for our product. We have ramped up production and are processing orders in a far more diligent and timely manner. Our lead times have gone from one month to two weeks recently.  
 
In regards to the new regulations effective in September, all indications suggest that the LeadCheck® product will not only survive the new provisions, but will most likely flourish. Here’s why: 
 
• Every renovator and contractor who has gone through the EPA certification process has already been trained on the use of our LeadCheck® swabs. To introduce new products would only create mass confusion for an industry that prides itself on the end product by way of the tried and true. It is not in the EPA’s best interest to cut ties with such a proven product, much less add more confusion to an already unstable market. 
 
• It’s easy to use, inexpensive, and above all time-efficient. These three things cannot and will not be overlooked by contractors in a results-driven industry. 
Posted @ Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:37 AM by Rian @LeadCheck
Great website. Good resource for people in the area. We had to friends in another state who had to register online at http://www.epaleadtraining.com for the EPA Lead Based Paint certification website. 
 
Thanks for keeping us in the loop and providing valuable informatoin.
Posted @ Monday, August 02, 2010 11:55 AM by Steven Gabbard
Great website. Good resource for people in the area. We had to friends in another state who had to register online at http://www.epaleadtraining.com for the EPA Lead Based Paint certification website.  
 
Thanks for keeping us in the loop and providing valuable informatoin.
Posted @ Monday, August 02, 2010 11:56 AM by EPA RRP Lead Training
It is important for all contractors to take a good look at thier insurance to see what it will do in the area of RRP. Some liability policies provide a great deal of coverage, others exclude lead completely. Their is not a correlation between cost and coverage. Liability policies are not a commodity, that are al the same. A contractor needs to find an agent that understands not only the insurance but also takes the time to understand your business and how the policy will respond to what you do.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:00 AM by Tom Messier
@EPA Lead - Do you know if I can order the rrp paint safety training forms from the website like they sale onwww.epaleadforms.com andwww.leadsafetyforms.com? 
 
We need some as we do not have the time to create them on our own. 
 
Thanks! 
Posted @ Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:03 PM by Jomes Carpenter
in recent dayseveryone is talking about insurance not selling insurance to firms that dont have their rrp certifications whoa thats really going to put a real dammper on the "companies" that dont follow the laws or work out of their trucks that dont provide insurance already kinda sounds like the old saying GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE DO." THESE TYPES OF CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN AROND FOREVER AND THEY WILL BVE HEAR LONG AFTER THE LEGAL BUSSINESS HAVE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE THEY REALLY DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FIND THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE NO BUSSINESS RECORDS TO GO BY THE ONLY WAY ITS GOING TO HAPPEN IS PEOPLE REPORTING THEM AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING THE WORK DONE AT HALF PRICE AND HECK EVEN IF THEY DO WHO REALLY ARE THEY DEALING WITH JOHN DOE FROM WHOKNOWSWHERE, OKLA. DUMB , DUMB, DUMB
Posted @ Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:47 PM by james
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